$(document).ready( function () { talk_rendercallback({"enabled":"0","islive":"0","eid":5568,"total":"83","discussion":[{"nm":"Azora L. Irby-Muntasir","rs":"0","ms":"This confirms what I always suspected -- that capitalism is a system for the greedy big ole fat cats that continue to set on their wide behinds and conjur of schems to get rich, and richer while little people such as myself struggle to make ends meet daily. Ms. Born is an American hero, an epic economic icon and should be hailed for her courage! My only desire is that all America should watch this revealing and very sad, sad, piece of history that reminds one of the days of that Herbert Hoover.\n\nAnd thank you PBS for providing this information to an individual that is neither a blue or red dog, but only struggling Ameican.\n\nThank you, thank you ~~ Love and Peace\nAzora L. Irby","pt":"Feb 18, 2010 20:54"},{"nm":"karen mcmullen","rs":"0","ms":"I have never seen the whole story like I did last night on frontline. Thank you frontline for bringing it to us, and Brooksley Born for showing us what a true american is. All those men being totally ego maniacs and the big boy club that used their power to oust her, she is what every politian should try to be like. I would like to thank you for your loyalty and courage and please keep talking to us. thank you thank you thank you.","pt":"Feb 18, 2010 20:25"},{"nm":"Disillusioned Citizen","rs":"0","ms":"Not being gifted and average in my intelligence, I count on these people to develop policies that are mature and progressive. I count on these intelligent people to look out for my interests. I am doing everything I can to raise my family, be productive in society. All I ask is that my efforts help the growth and betterment of my country. Frankly, and discouragingly, I have lost faith in everything. I can barely get myself to wake up and face another day.\n\nThe real sad part of all of this is that people like Mrs. Born, well educated professionals are marginalized and crucified by well educated professionals who have been corrupted. \n\nWe have many brilliant people who have lost their focus and that is a very very sad state of affairs for a country, my family, and me.","pt":"Feb 18, 2010 20:17"},{"nm":"Mitch Guerard","rs":"0","ms":"Being a previous supporter of Barack I\'m not so sure now. I do not see the pain announced from him of which he campained on that we all needed to share in to right this ship. He will have to bring about this needed regulations or I will have lost any hope I had in him. Human nature wants to be liked and remembered positively. Very few people are willing to stand for the truth no matter what and in America the truth doesn\'t get you very far. It\'s a sad fact. I am feeling that Barack will choose the wrong path. My heroes are the truth tellers from day one like Ms. Born. I give only small measures to the ones who come clean and fess up, Levitt. The rest like Greenspan, Sommers and the like should be despised because they heard truths and to protect themselves they were willing to destroy another to protect themselves. I did not know of the details as found in this show back in 2000 during the dot com bust, but Greenspans bailing out the stock market and a housing market priced above the 70 year trend line back then, led me to believe that a more painful event was being built up in the coming years. I had been calling for his firing since. Greenspan had made so many statements during his congressional visits over the years since the dot com bust that made someone like myself who understands economics cringe. No Alan you caused this crisis though your comments to congress who, not knowing any better, trusted your answers through the years. I for one really believe you had a gut feeling along time ago that things were amiss. You saw \'irrational exhuberance\' in 1996 for god\'s sake and lied to protect your ego! You got out at the last minute because you knew what danger lied ahead. Hell I saw it and protected my investments in time and I didn\'t have all the info you were privy to.","pt":"Feb 18, 2010 00:12"},{"nm":"Maximillian","rs":"0","ms":"Ms Brooksley Born you are a ROCKSTAR!\n\nIf you are ever in Mississippi (Jackson), Ms Born, dinner is on me; with pleasure.\n\nMaximillian ","pt":"Feb 17, 2010 21:24"},{"nm":"Bob Wieland","rs":"0","ms":"Very sobering program, the warning. I honor Ms. Born for her perseverence in a very thankless environment. It makes my blood boil to see many of these key working group members in The white house elites telling us how they\'re going to fix this economic mess instead of being honest with the American public, of how we got into this mess. I think I will E-mail the White House and ask the President to sit down and watch this indepth show. My praise for this very brave women.","pt":"Feb 17, 2010 20:48"},{"nm":"Leo F. Vogel","rs":"0","ms":"As an 83 year old, and a student of history, I am appalled at the behavior of the Washington Establishment in their treatment of a dedicated public servant in Ms Born, and the callous disregard of the financial welfare of the American public. We are hated internationally for our libertarian commercialism. If only the American public were interested enough, and realized what a pismire our government has become, we might be able to shovel the mess into the Potomac. ","pt":"Feb 17, 2010 20:09"},{"nm":"tom","rs":"0","ms":"Dear Ms Born;\nJust saw PBS show, and what unravelled from the OTC derivative market was terrifying. This economy is built on a house of cards, and with the clowns we have running this circus (who masquerade as leaders) it is just a matter of time before this country implodes financially.\nI wish you all the best and hope that someone in power heeds your warning.\ntom","pt":"Feb 17, 2010 19:29"},{"nm":"Patrick B","rs":"0","ms":"Brooksley Born, Thank you!","pt":"Feb 17, 2010 17:18"},{"nm":"Bill Murphy","rs":"0","ms":""I have found a flaw". Brilliant.\n ","pt":"Feb 17, 2010 15:33"},{"nm":"bob lewis","rs":"0","ms":"Ms.Born is one of the hard working gov. employees,who constantly work for the citizens.Many do not as most have seen over the last 15 years.The wall street gamble with your savings is the only game in town.Ms Born was trying to make sure that we at least had a chance. Growing up in Washington and seeing the change in the people on the hill, I\'m afraid the protection for the people is heading in the wrong direction.I suggest you carfully watch your investments and stay very conservative, although you won\'t make a lot of profit.I hope Ms Born is able to receive a possition the will help and protect us,but I\'m afraid with the weakness of the present administration we have no hope.I voted for Obama. Be careful ","pt":"Feb 17, 2010 15:12"},{"nm":"Chuck","rs":"0","ms":"I think she is one gutsy woman that should be running things in Washington. I am still bewildered as to why she hasn\'t been consulted by our president in retrospect of her predictions. Even her opponents have agreed with her proposals now.We need more people like her in our government because God knows we need them, especially now, the future of our country depends on it.","pt":"Feb 17, 2010 14:08"},{"nm":"kathleen","rs":"0","ms":"So, some of the same people that tried to destroy her; are now in the White House advising Pres. Obama... my God, what is wrong with these people... every taxpayer and every adult should watch this show...","pt":"Feb 17, 2010 13:36"},{"nm":"Gregg","rs":"0","ms":""So in that sense, they\'re a good thing?\n\nExactly. And I would never say derivatives should be banned or forbidden."\n\nRemember, she\'s not anti-derivative, she just wants some oversight and accountability...so many comments are based on "corrupt" bankers even though they are doing what the do....trade to make money. There also seems to be a lot of "anti-rich" rhetoric here, guess that will never end...anyways, great program. As an anti-government regulation guy, i\'ve changed my view with regards to the OTC Derivatives market, even without full understanding of what\'s being traded....Brooksley Born deserves more than she got...","pt":"Feb 17, 2010 12:16"},{"nm":"George Cook","rs":"0","ms":"What homeowner would agree we not police fraud? That is what Allen Greenspan believed his professional life. We now know that a decent and honorable woman - Brooksley Born, Esquire - tried to avert a political-economic disaster greater in its perniciousness than the September 11, 2001 attack on the World Trade Center, albeit with the same lack of success as our nation\'s counter-terrorism agencies had that day. Indeed, the roots of both failures are inherently the same. If those who do not believe in the efficiency of government under any circumstances are put in charge - what else should be expect.\n \nPause for a minute and consider what the young Allen Greenspan, wrote 43 year ago, in 1963, when he was then 31 years old:\n\n “Protection of the consumer against ‘dishonest and unscrupulous business practices’ has become a cardinal ingredient of welfare statism. Left to their own devices, it is alleged, businessmen would attempt to sell unsafe goods and drugs, fraudulent securities, and shoddy buildings. Thus, it is argued, regulatory agencies are indispensable, if the consumer is to be protected from the ‘greed’ of the businessman.\n\n But it is precisely the ‘greed’ of the businessman or, more appropriately, his profit-seeking, which is the unexcelled protector of the consumer.\n What collectivists refuse to recognize is that it is in the self-interest of every businessman to have a reputations for honest dealings and quality product. Since the market-value of a going business is measured by its money-making potential, reputation or ‘good will’ is as much an asset as its physical plant and equipment. . .The market value of a brokerage firm is even more closely tied [than a food or drug firm] to its good-will assets. Securities worth hundreds of millions of dollars are traded every day over the telephone. The slightest doubt as to the trustworthiness of a broker’s word or commitment would put him out of business overnight.”\n\n(See Ayn Rand, editor, Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, The Assault on Integrity, by Allen Greenspan).\n \nAs Britain\'s Edmund Burke knew about human nature over 200 years ago: pure individual libertarianism is anarchism. Hardened conservatives recognize that "regulation" is simply another name for the state\'s right to exercise prudent police power. That white collar businessmen are not tempted by the notion of making a "quick buck" by duping innocent, uninformed investors - while no one is looking - should be of no surprise to anyone with normal intelligence and common sense. Who could have supposed the nation\'s top economist was, indeed, such a fool, and that his injudicious opinion would be shared so ferociously by Washington and Wall Street elites, who have so deluded themselves at civilization\'s expense. \n\nMy gravitas has not changed since September 2008. It will not until derivatives are regulated and those such as LTCM, who can leverage $5 billion into $1 trillion in debt are stopped from operating with the unfettered sanction of the federal government. So help me, God!\n","pt":"Feb 17, 2010 09:35"},{"nm":"R. M. Kudva","rs":"0","ms":"Thanks to Brooksley Born and Frontline for showing GREED in Wall Street perpetuated by Alan Greenspan , Rubin and Larry Summers and likes of them. I hope President Obama will appoint Mrs Born in charge of regulation of Wall Street and regulate these greedy guys and abolish these derivatives and bring Honesty to Wall Street . A good example is Vanguard Mutual Funds created by John C. Bogle. Bogle can join Mrs Born in helping REGULATION at Wall Street!.\nThanks,\n\nR. M. Kudva","pt":"Feb 17, 2010 08:37"},{"nm":"William Whatley","rs":"0","ms":"The program was excellent, and FRONTLINE should be thanked for bringing this little known hero, Ms Born to light for all of us, the everyday viewer of Frontline. This picture will always be in my mind, the overweight (politically) congress member berating this good lady, this intelligent smart but seemingly politcally naive lady trying to do her job; and the Senator, obviously working at the behest of both ideologues and the derivatives lobbyists, lecturing her that there was no need for her modest regulatory proposals. Makes you sick and engenders feelings of utter helpless. Makes you wonder, will democratic government ever work? Will only future upheavals and great economic crisis spur any change. I cannot think of anything more profound that the devastation wrought during 2007 - 2008; the failure of Lehman Bros, the bailout of AIG, and the systemic problems of toxic assets still choking many banks - all this still with us. Apparently these are not enough to spur regulatory change, some minimal regulatory adjustment, such as simply reporting dangerous build-ups, that would surely be for the better and non-invasive! Still reporting of dangerous positions is not likely to come about in today\'s enviroment, in today\'s premium on continued gridlock, nothing moving in any direction, just waiting for the next crisis. It will come!","pt":"Feb 17, 2010 08:05"},{"nm":"julie","rs":"0","ms":" Brooksley Born, if you ever see this, thank you. Thank you for representing integrity, honesty, and conscientiousness. You are a magnificent person who deserves to be praised and honored and rewarded for your service. In no way, shape, or form did you deserve any of the harassment you had to put up with. Unfortunately, we live in a world that is unjust at times. Yet you prevailed through the hostility and should be commended for your commitment to what is just. \n\tI wish that all of the American public and people beyond could become aware of the truths you told. It is unfortunate that greed truly runs so many of us and it is especially detrimental that greed influences so many who have power in this country. It shocks me to think about those people in the OTC derivatives game who laughed at the Proctor & Gamble Company and how it was getting manipulated into a bad deal and these people laughing at the company\'s expense were getting rich because of it. What kind of culture exists in the financial sector where people become so numb to this kind of atrocity that they are o.k. with doing this to a company? I think we live in a culture, in general, where most people are out for themselves and where most people only think in terms of their own personal gains and are not responsible or wise enough to see how our society works as a whole system and how the actions of each individual in this society do affect the whole. As other people have commented in the posts, the people who gain wealth from these shoddy deals are not as effected by the disruption of the whole society as much as the average citizen and are somewhat protected and buffered from the true costs of these unethical business practices. I guess it is easy for those traders who violated Proctor & Gamble to say, "it is a big company, it can stand to lose the $, why shouldn\'t I take this opportunity to get ahead?" As you wisely stated though, the fall of the major financial institutions in America who are involved in these derivative deals, will and has trickled on down and affected the lives of many, many Americans. The truly disturbing aspect is that we do not learn. Bail out after bail out and the industry just gets back up and continues its detrimental ways. I just do not see how those execs can justify their bonuses when we are living in a time where average people are losing their livelihood, homes, jobs, etc. Why don\'t they get in touch with reality and say, "you know, I do not need a bonus the way that American needs some help right now, I\'ll donate it to him." I mean the economic crisis we are experiencing in this country including people losing homes and jobs definately is related to the crisis that these financial institutions are experiencing. Why can\'t the people in powerful, lucrative positions acknowledge this and take some responsibility? \n ","pt":"Feb 17, 2010 07:09"},{"nm":"Jack Evanhoe","rs":"0","ms":"Genius - No Common Sense - As the New Administration and Congress have failed to do anything about the Credit Derivative Markets (actually its too late, they are too big and too out of control) and as is now happening in China, preparation for a Joint Residential and Commercial Building Boom Bubble bursting, e.g. there are 50 empty high-rise buildings alone in Bejing and that does not count the ones finished last year 2009 or that will finish construction this year and all of this in just one City of many in China. If that Bubble bursts, the Chinese will not buy Our Debit instruments at all and do we know many Trillions of Dollars of Credit Derivatives are tied to the Chinese Markets, so when those Markets go, Oil drops drastically, there is then no one left to bail out the U.S. Government nor the U.S. Financial firms that started all of this, these firms still have the same Toxic Assests. The U.S. will have to stop in Afghanistan as there will be no money for any of it, maybe not enough even to get the military equipment home.\n\nHow many of Our CEOs and top Government Officials have money in those secret Swiss Bank accounts, they will be protected against the true Collapse of the World Financial Markets/Economies, the average American, who cares they will be so busy trying to find enough money to buy food, let them eat Cake.\n\nYou do not have to be a Stanford Law School graduate to understand what is comming, I think Brooksley Born will go down in History as the only Genius of the last 60 years.\nShe will be regarded with the Respect and Honor she deserves someday, but only after the U.S. has fallen, never to get up again. ","pt":"Feb 17, 2010 02:41"},{"nm":"tony owens","rs":"0","ms":"This is in line of many Frontline specials, it rates in the top tier of show\'s, and like others in the above statements,a coounterpoint, why isn\'t President Obama bringing more people like her into the all men\'s club. Their is Elizabeth Warren, I just don\'t think this goes far enough. And for the most of 2000 as current trends show, without the public out cry a whistleblower is of very little help, critical thinking skills is not American\'s best suit. ","pt":"Feb 16, 2010 22:14"},{"nm":"Marty Moore Sr","rs":"0","ms":"What more can be said of Brooksley Born - one person doing their job responsibly in a zoo of politicians with the financial market in their pockets controlling their campaign finances and votes (4 lobbyists for every congressperson - hellooo). It is sad that the real responsible and knowledgable people - the ones who genuinely know there stuff - are not intersted in politics or office. Very Sad! We lose the expertiese of the honest ones who canmake this country great - the Brooksley Borns and Condoleeza Rices and so many others who just aren\'t unterested in fighting theover corrupt system. How much more could she have done as those self righteous males sate in front of congress early on in the ealr 90s and beat her down as a naive\' and misguided expert against there "apparent genius". She was more gratious than I would have been. And now who do we have running things - making decisions on how to fix it all? Chris Dodd and Joe Liebermann - the major proponents of the Greenspan philsophy and degregulation. Geithner and Summers and the group who supported the failure through their refusal to enforce the Glsss Steagal Act of 1933 allowing banks, investment firms and insurance companies to mix business. And in 1999 Greenspan and 2 of his buddies destroyed the economy with bad advice. These same buddies now are Obama\'s advisors. WHy do we sut back and forget that we are asking the very men who are responsible for the destruction of the economy - to now lead the charge to fix it. Why not get Herbert Hoover back? This is insane but then - from the get-go - what have we all been saying. Obama has no background in history, economics or leadership and people-skills. He is just a mock savior. And as I write this - we see on the horizon - IN the summer of 2010 - another major bust for banks in the collapse of the commmercial building mortgage market with defaults - ARC loans that never worked - Rising unemployment as Small businesses run out of resources to stay open etc etc etc. I plan to do my part this time and knock on doors and educate people - perhaps Americans will vote in 2010 for more than skin color and a rah rah "yes we can" attitude and ask the question Yes we can WHAT - and HOW!","pt":"Dec 31, 2009 13:07"},{"nm":"joe smith","rs":"0","ms":"I remember allegations that the Republicans hated the legacy of FDR and LBJ so much that they wanted to destroy the beast(that is a social safety net for the non wealthy). Are we just seeing the partial realization of this Republican wish list. Will the populace keep voting for the very politicians who live off the largess of the lobbyists who pander for the legislation that favors the very wealthy. We do not have a Democracy, we have kleptocracy that allows the kleptos to buy all the influence they need through paid for elections. Do not allow any politician rich or poor to any more voice than a series of essays stating their position on the various public concerns. CAMPAIGN REFORM of the most stringent nature in the form of a constitutional amendment.","pt":"Dec 22, 2009 12:46"},{"nm":"Raj","rs":"0","ms":"It\'s sad this country is run by corporate big wigs, who really brought this financial crisis. It looks like President hasn\'t learnt anything..he has Larry Summers and Tim Geithner as his people to look after the financial mess, they are the same people who have hands in creating this mess. Government is not for the people, they are run by corporate big wigs. Ruben is now on Citi\'s board...amazing how citi has been getting all the tax payer\'s money\n\nI hoped President Obama would bring financial regulations, but he is surrounded by same old people who preached deregulation...Obama I have lost all "HOPE" from you.","pt":"Nov 22, 2009 01:00"},{"nm":"CANDY","rs":"0","ms":"Ron Paul is fighting for same thing that Brookley fought for. Though it is very sad that she was not successful for her and our country, Her efforts have surely influenced the many people stepping into her shoes. Educating yourself on the powers within the Federal Reserve Board have a profound affect on our economy today and is the root of all evil. ","pt":"Nov 17, 2009 13:20"},{"nm":"john vercellone","rs":"0","ms":"its is very clear that the creators of the derivative swindle in vast majority come from ivy league backgrounds(rocket science ivy league endowments the highest in the world)but it hasnt even ended with this old time,honest,quality and civicly minded t.v journalism.No THE WARNING only set the Ivy League cabal back about two hours,the same game is being played today,it may have some difference in looks but it is the same game..oh surprise the Ivy League endowments will EASILY regenerate thier minor losses after thier Ivy League cabal ALUMS have been safely SAVED FROM FINANCIAL COMPETIIVENESS BY DIRECT AND INDIRECT GOVT SUBSIDIES...REAL CAPITALISM PAYS ITS DEBTS THE USA HASNT PAID ITS DEBT IN OVER 25YEARS.NOT SO COINCIDENTLY WHO HAS OCCUPIED THE PRESIDENCY(SURPRISE THE CABAL)","pt":"Nov 17, 2009 12:37"},{"nm":"Duane","rs":"0","ms":"What we need is not a knee jerk reaction with obtursive and restrictive government regulations on the market but a return to the depression era law (Glass-Steagall Act of 1933) that prevented consumer banks from trading the same instruments as the capital market banks that trade derivatives and such. The Act was repealed by lawmakers paving the way for the subprime-derivatives crash. We dont need more government intervention! It was government that overturned the Glass Steagall Act. We need more laws.","pt":"Nov 8, 2009 21:50"},{"nm":"Michiko Ishikawa","rs":"0","ms":"Many thanks to Mr. Michael Kirke.\nThis program has helped me understand the current financial crisis and unregulated OTC derivatives\' roles in it. It was still a surprise to know that Ms. Born warned the danger before the LTCM crisis but in the end, it was effectively swept under the carpet.\n\nI hope that Mr. Kirke\'s next project would include the current situation of the issues and what kind of forces there are in shaping the issues and directions. Hope we will be able to view around this time next year. \n","pt":"Nov 1, 2009 17:07"},{"nm":"susan Knight","rs":"0","ms":"This Pandora\'s Box reveals multiple levels of flawed Capitol Hill politics and decision making structures. This report has changed my way of viewing Washington. Among so many things I will never again view a pick-up White House basketball game as a benign workout.","pt":"Nov 1, 2009 11:19"},{"nm":"Janice Clark","rs":"0","ms":"Brooksley Born should have been embraced and thanked profusely for her insight into a seething powder keg like unregulated dertivative trading. The market self regulates? Thats ridiculous because when people are involved regulation goes out the window and in walks manipulation. I am so pissed off that this intelligent, insightful person was pushed to the curb by those guys who couldn\'t see the forest for the trees stuck in their eyeballs. \n\nSomebody had better beg Ms. Born to come to the table as a consultant on these still existent issues. President Obama do yourself and the rest of the American citizens a favor--get this lady on board all discussions!!!\n\nJanice Clark","pt":"Oct 30, 2009 09:31"},{"nm":"Jun\'ichi Kawamoto","rs":"0","ms":"How profound and sharp a program this is! And how sad it is to know that the well-known heavyweight responsible for the matter not only turned the deaf ear but also tried to shut up the insightful woman who warned the crisis more than a decade ago!\nBut there may be no use complaining over the spilt milk. What matters most is building up the safe and stable financial structure from now on. If the United States fails it and has only insufficient control over the financial institutions & their tradings, the crisis will happen again, as Ms Born warned at the end of the program. \nMy mother country Japan has a huge amount of U.S. government bonds. But if the American financial industry continues to drag down President Obama\'s financial reform and makes the second financial crisis inevitable, we cannot rely on U.S. economy any more. We will demand the U.S. government to redeem the bonds, because we cannot afford to keep them knowing that they will crash in the near future. There is no need to exlpain how terrible it will affect the U.S. economy. And so, the lobbyists who are disturbing President Obama should consider what they are putting at risk.","pt":"Oct 30, 2009 03:53"},{"nm":"Scott Bradley","rs":"0","ms":"Brooksley Born is truly an American Patriot going against the "good old boy" mentality of our political system. She marched forward diligently with courage facing what was then a proverbial "god" in Greenspan who turned out to be a schmuck at the US taxpayers expense. Him and his cronies like Summers, Rubin, Paulson and their ilk are dangerous men with their hand in the till of the Federal Reserve while a flaccid Congress looks the other way. Folks, watch your wallet, move your money out of their reach and hang on as it\'s going to get worse. ","pt":"Oct 29, 2009 02:04"},{"nm":"Gula","rs":"0","ms":"I would like to thank Frontline for this eye opener. \nThank you Ms. Born and Mr. Greenberger. ","pt":"Oct 28, 2009 21:46"},{"nm":"Gary Seevers","rs":"0","ms":"Profound Interview. Those of us who were regulators or dealers should have the courage to admit we were wrong as Alan Greenspan has done. ","pt":"Oct 28, 2009 06:45"},{"nm":"Judy Benson","rs":"0","ms":"I just watched this Frontline episode and am saddened that our Congress can be so easily duped. President Obama has to do what he can to foster government regulation of our financial institutions. He needs Brooksley Born to be a part of his administration! I am in awe of her brilliance and tenacity. She needs to continue the fight.","pt":"Oct 26, 2009 21:12"},{"nm":"Peter Dormi","rs":"0","ms":"I was wondering how I lost all my investments.!","pt":"Oct 26, 2009 16:28"},{"nm":"Peter Watson","rs":"0","ms":"Thank you, Frontline! This should be required viewing for everyone in the country.\n\nFrom the Brooksley Born interview: "Market participants don\'t look out for the public interest."\n\nThat is it in a nutshell. To which I would add: If a financial institution is too big to fail, it\'s too big, period!\n\nWhy is this clear thinking and dedicated woman not in a position of authority in the Obama administration? She saw it coming eleven years before the train wreck. This is exactly what you want from someone looking out for the public interest. What courage, to stand up to the big guys and stick to her guns! If she ever chooses to run for public office (probably too wise to do so), my contribution is in the mail. \n\nI\'m rooting for Obama (the Republicans sure don\'t have any answers) but I take little comfort in seeing Summers and Geitner in the positions of authority they occupy. Sure, maybe they\'ve gotten religion on regulation, but effective regulation of markets is no sure thing.\n\nI fear all Wall Street has learned is if you are big enough, you can do whatever you want and we the poor stupid people will bail them out. Incredible. \n\nThank you, Frontline. Keep up the good work.","pt":"Oct 26, 2009 15:22"},{"nm":"Kolin Bernardoni","rs":"0","ms":"Ms. Born is an American patriot as much as the Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I admire her intestinal fortitude and public service and agree that our national leadership should listen to both sides of the argument. Thank you Ms. Born for your leadership, dedication and commitment to the truth. ","pt":"Oct 26, 2009 14:43"},{"nm":"Julia Parker","rs":"0","ms":"I wish for regulatory oversight on any industry/endeavor using public funds or for which the public may be held responsible in reimbursing losses to the public through illegal activities. The derivatives market certainly appears to qualify for oversight with authority to penalize those who engage in such risky behavior!","pt":"Oct 26, 2009 09:39"},{"nm":"Robert Gabel","rs":"0","ms":"Loved the show. A note about the 2 guys working for Obama.... the show stated that they have "changed their views" and now think that the market does need regulation. From \'reading between the lines\' it seems that the group of men were heavily convinced by Greenspan and the immediate boom market.","pt":"Oct 26, 2009 00:16"},{"nm":"professor adler","rs":"0","ms":"It\'s upsetting that all the same cast of criminals are still in DC.\nAfter Rubin and Paulson I was hoping for something better.\nAnything would have been an improvement, but we are still being controlled by the\nsame goldman-sach criminals that will lead us back into crash after crash.\nI wish Obama wouldn\'t take their money and live up to his promises.","pt":"Oct 25, 2009 03:21"},{"nm":"Cal Betz","rs":"0","ms":"It is amazing how early the system will shut down anyone that has thoughts that either disagree or question current thinking/or ways of doing business. As a manager I was always interested in what my staff had to say when we were trying to solve a problem. They were closer to problem than I could ever be so their knowledge of the problem was critical in solving it. That closeness could also cause a problem in their seeing the correct solution to the problem. In making problem solving a truly team effort I tried to get everyone involved in providing their ideas for a solution, even if it was not there area of responsibility thus making each a stake holder in the success of the outcome. I know this is hindsight but our leaders have got to quite talking and start listening to the experts they put into positions of responsibility like Brooksley Born. ","pt":"Oct 23, 2009 15:40"},{"nm":"Raquel Baranow","rs":"0","ms":"Where did all the money go, who profited? ($531-Trillion!) I remember reading about a school board in Wisconsin losing $200-Million in a credit default swap, who benefited?!\n\n. . . These high-speed traders (milliseconds) on Wall Street gaming the system.\n\nSeems like the $ystem is broken . . . all we have left is faith in funny-money.\n\nSeems like a deliberate plan to fleece America before the rug is pulled out from under us, an economic Katrina. Things can not go on like this with geometric world population growth, global warming & peak oil. The rich have yachts & jets to escape to Paraguay or New Zealand. While the ex-slaves fight for survival in a Mad Max, post-industrial dystopia.","pt":"Oct 23, 2009 13:44"},{"nm":"dallas latham","rs":"0","ms":"once again, frontline trumps itself, fantastic!! this incestuous group of so called "financial gurus" should absolutely be denied access to financial policy formulation. as i watched my investments lose nearly $165K thanks to this mess, i had, in the summer of 2007, a meeting with my so called financial planner to discuss moving myself out of this market and into more stable instruments. why? i did not believe this economy and its participants was/were living in reality. i am not financial wizard. i simply looked at all of the excess in the daily lives of people. from $4 cups of coffee, to the mc mansions, to the escalades, to the myth of creditworthiness afforded to people who i knew to be anything but credit worthy: credit time bomb is more fitting a desciption. i knew in my heart that all of this debt was being divied and repackaged then resold to gamblers all over the world. i let my financial advisor talk me out of changing my portfolio. this courageous woman and servant of the public good, demands obama to have her voice at the decision making table. ","pt":"Oct 23, 2009 12:55"},{"nm":"cindy braun","rs":"0","ms":"What a shame!!!!!\n\nThank you Brooksley Born, I will be supporting you!\nPresident Obama needs to get her back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!\nCindy Braun","pt":"Oct 23, 2009 02:23"},{"nm":"cb","rs":"0","ms":"WoW,\nWhat an eye opener!!!\nI am going to find out what my friends invested in when it dropped!!\nPresident Obama needs to address this now!!!!!!!\nI am going to show this video to every person, teacher, etc.\nI am the people and I want Ms. Born back in the driver\'s seat!!!!!!!\nI would like to thank Ms.Brooksley for her work and rentless bagering of the men in the Pres house.\nI cannot believe he still has this men working in the white house, they would have been charged if it was the regular guys on the street. They have way to much power!!!\nWhat happened here?????????????\nPres Obama, we need to hold them accountable for this, like you promised us.\nWe need to protect what the people have left.\nI thought he was cleaning up the lobbyist??\nBroken promises??????\nCindy","pt":"Oct 23, 2009 02:20"},{"nm":"Carlushio","rs":"0","ms":"I do not remember the last time I felt this sad. This gang of macho and their friends on Wall Street got their way in the 90s and almost bankrupted the country in the process. Their boss - Sir Greenspan - received the most prestigious civilian medal from the White House for doing everything possible to prevent meaningful regulations from getting in the way of companies engaging in fraudulent activities. One decade after, the very individuals who thought they knew it all are back at it. And at no point during the process, a single of them has been held accountable for failing the country 10 years earlier. The one person - Mrs Born - who had the wisdom to call for action and who was ridiculed for advocating regulating Over the Counter Derivatives remains just another footnote in history. Meanwhile, the congress that failed to exercise oversight 10 years ago stays dormant at the switch this time around as well. And we are surprised that despite all that has happened, Washington has yet to come up with any meaningful regulation aimed at the country\'s financial system. We cannot keep playing the same game with the same actors under the same rules and somehow expect a different result. This is not change we can believe in!","pt":"Oct 23, 2009 00:44"},{"nm":"Bll Fuller","rs":"0","ms":"This show should be required viewing for our president. I hope that those of us who have put him in power will rise to the occation and send him a reminder of his duty to the American public..","pt":"Oct 22, 2009 23:41"},{"nm":"Robin Hood","rs":"0","ms":"I believe Greenspan, Ruben, and Summer were part of a conspiracy to protect their ‘friends’ investments in the OTC Derivatives Market. I believe they lobbied hard to have congress protect against the “concept release” regulation and over site in conspiracy with their OTC Derivatives Market coconspirators to protect a giant Ponzi scheme that is the OTC Derivatives Market.\nI believe Greenspan only claims to admit a ‘flaw’ in this financial ‘theology’ in an effort to protect him from any future criminal action that could be called for at some time in the future. In doing so he can say he did it because he truly believed that no regulation was the right path when in fact anyone that believes fraud should not be pursued is a criminal and coconspirator in the fraud itself. \nHe is only protecting himself from criminal responsibility when I believe in fact he knew there was fraud and risk and that the OTC Derivatives Market is a Ponzi scheme which it still is today.\nThis will happen again and next time there likely will be systemic financial meltdown and then there will be criminal action taken and his ‘flaw’ is only a veil to protect him.","pt":"Oct 22, 2009 23:22"},{"nm":"Doreen Sangaline","rs":"0","ms":"I found this program riveting. My fear is that the financial industry has more representation in government than the American people and that the foxes are watching the hen house.","pt":"Oct 22, 2009 20:51"},{"nm":"Harshad Bheddah","rs":"0","ms":"I strongly feel that Brooksley Born surely deserves the Nobel Prize. You the commite of choosing the nobel prize winners just watch this Frontline documentry.President Obama what are you waiting for give the job to her,let her straighten out the economic mess we are in.Even if you have to kneel and beg her to take the job.Not those who where a part in creating this whole mess and you have them in your inner circle. ","pt":"Oct 22, 2009 15:10"},{"nm":"Jaci St. Aubrey","rs":"0","ms":"This is the most exhaustive and incomprehensible money scam that is condoned by our government, in letting all these financial crooks off the hook!!!!!We need regulation in every facet of financial dealings. Thank You .....Kudos to Brooksley and may the rest of here career be one filled with satisfaction and honer, she knows what it is to represent the people of America......","pt":"Oct 22, 2009 14:12"},{"nm":"Tom Tangretti","rs":"0","ms":"I am so disappointed in the Obama Administration. I had such hopes for a change in the cronyism and back dealing in Washingotn when he came into power. I realize now, that it may never change. I guess there is just too much money involved. Ms. Born is a true hero but instead of being held up to public admiration she is an afterthought, a person who tried to do the right thing, but doggoneit just couldn\'t get it done, "too bad." And we the American people go on our merry way with our heads in the sand hoping that someone, Obama perhaps, will make it all better. If Frontline doesn\'t do the story most of us would never know about Ruben, Saunders and Greenspan\'s either mistaken belief in the free market and deregulation or their complicity in something more sinister. But one has to wonder about the same foxes in the same hen house.\nObama needs to clean out those "toxic assests" that hold those positions and give credibility to his Presidency to help those of us who were strong supportors who at this point are so disallutioned.\nTT","pt":"Oct 22, 2009 05:19"},{"nm":"carlos in California","rs":"0","ms":"It refreshing to find out that we still have a few public servants trying to make a difference by doing the right thing..it seems to me that all of these so called public servants are so used to the idea that they can just violate our trust and for them to just apoligize after the damage has been done to the people they were suppose to protect and serve, that everything will be fine..And we just accept that to be the norm and hope that the next guy will hopefully do better..They should all be held accountable for the consequences of their actions and poor judgements to the people whose lives they have destroyed and disrupted..I feel that the President\'s Medal of Honor awarded to Mr. Greenspan , should be taken away and awarded to the real heroes.. Ms. Brooksley and Frontline .. We need more of you in Washington to protect us from all these so called public servants. But the fact that Larry Summers and Geitner are the sole advisers again to Mr. Obama does not show promise for this administration..Its the same actors with a different s\cript..but I have some faith in Mr. Obama ,that he will have the courage to do the right thing..just like Brooksley and that\'s about all we can expect of him..only time will tell of course ...But the show must go on. Im just hoping that this show will be better this time around..cause we certainly need a good one badly, to make up for the last three ... From a Concerned Californian\n\n\n","pt":"Oct 22, 2009 02:59"},{"nm":"Steven Hobdy","rs":"0","ms":"I would simply like to say to Brooksley Born, for all you did for the little people like me in this country;\n\n THANK YOU ","pt":"Oct 22, 2009 00:53"},{"nm":"nancy labaki","rs":"0","ms":"to the person that said I wish the president would give ms. born an ear. Do you honestly believe this president is any different than those men who went against Born and the right thing to do??","pt":"Oct 22, 2009 00:22"},{"nm":"nancy labaki","rs":"0","ms":"I was horrified by the Warning. when are people in Washington going to take responsibility??? I am also horrified that 2 of the men in the piece are now working for Obama. It never ends. we should start Thinking. Most Americans don\'t think. They are too trusting. Bless her for her efforts and shame on Greenspan and his croonies. Tsk Tsk","pt":"Oct 22, 2009 00:20"},{"nm":"Michael Derry","rs":"0","ms":"Wealth is praiseworthy in the highest degree, if it is acquired by an individual\'s own efforts and the grace of God, in commerce, agriculture, art and industry, and if it be expended for philanthropic purposes. Above all, if a judicious and resourceful individual should initiate measures which would universally enrich the masses of the people, there could be no undertaking greater than this, and it would rank in the sight of God as the supreme achievement, for such a benefactor would supply the needs and insure the comfort and well-being of a great multitude. Wealth is most commendable, provided the entire population is wealthy. If, however, a few have inordinate riches while the rest are impoverished, and no fruit or benefit accrues from that wealth, then it is only a liability to its possessor. If, on the other hand, it is expended for the promotion of knowledge, the founding of elementary and other schools, the encouragement of art and industry, the training of orphans and the poor -- in brief, if it is dedicated to the welfare of society -- its possessor will stand out before God and man as the most excellent of all who live on earth and will be accounted as one of the people of paradise.\n\n\t(Abdu\'l-Baha, The Secret of Divine Civilization, p. 24)\n\nWould any of this be happening if each and every one of us as members of the human family held these words to be true and let that truth be a guide to our actions.\n\nIf only. . . ","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 21:29"},{"nm":"Doug O\'Brien","rs":"0","ms":"Brooksley Born is one courageous lady and I greatly admire her.She was willing to risk everything to try to advert finanical disaster,and yet the big boys in government just spit in her face and pushed her out of her job.Watching this program made me angry for the finanical mess we are now in could have avoided if only Ms Borns advice had been heeded.","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 21:29"},{"nm":"Mary Margaret","rs":"0","ms":"\nWhen President Obama selected Larry Summers to be his chief economic advisor, I knew that the foxes were controlling our taxpaying hen house. Even though Obama announced that he\'ll cut the CEO\'s pay etc if they accepted TARP money, his administration has yet to even propose one single regulation of the US financial system.\n\nAm I alone is wondering why this has happened?","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 20:52"},{"nm":"Bart Adams","rs":"0","ms":"Interesting that it was a woman who bucked the system, somebody did thank goodness even though it didn\'t do much good. More institutions need to buck the old [white] men\'s club - and this from an old white man like me. :) I believe more racial and gender diversity leads to better corporate and political leadership, and less sheep following.","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 20:25"},{"nm":"Martin Dolan","rs":"0","ms":"KUDOS to FRONTLINE and BROOKSLEY BORN! President Obama would do well to secure her sage advice and experience in the current financial crisis and economic slowdown that continues. It is hard to imagine that Bernacke, Geitner, and Summers have really been "born again" and weaned away from their previous views inspite of the financial meltdown. President Obama needs counsel other than that of the revolving Wall Streeters he has around him. We, the American People, can only hope!!!!","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 19:26"},{"nm":"Barbara Huch","rs":"0","ms":"PBS and Frontline should advertise and offer this DVD for sale in magazines, newspapers. and commercial T.V. This story needs to reach a broader audience than just Frontline and PBS viewers. It needs to reach all the voters! Barbara Huch","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 17:55"},{"nm":"Bill Vanek","rs":"0","ms":"With Brooksley\'s integrity and "care of the people attitude" in todays finacial climate, I only Wish upon a star, that President Obama would recruit such a shinning individual and help our country to move forward and not have a crisis like this ever, never again at the expense of the American people.\nWhat an eye opener. Thanks.","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 16:08"},{"nm":"Linda Broten","rs":"0","ms":"Several years ago I remember an article interview of Ms Born so when "Warning"\nwas scheduled I too was mesmerized with the program. Is there anyway these\nso called brains can be held accountable?","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 15:47"},{"nm":"Carlos J Rozo","rs":"0","ms":"I hope President Obama watched the show. He should hire Mrs Born to help him set up the regulations that are so badly needed.","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 15:08"},{"nm":"Bill Schenken","rs":"0","ms":"Thank you for you service Ms. Born. I wish there was a prize for excellent public service so that people who take amazing risks like this are financially rewarded. Right now, only people who risk the public\'s money are financially rewarded.\n\nI have to say that after reading this it makes me question the bailout. I wish congress would go after the companies that were made whole in the bailout now and get them to repay some of their money.","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 13:39"},{"nm":"MHeckler","rs":"0","ms":"I wish that Ms. Born and the rest of her staff had walked, no run, to the closest newspaper reporter and screamed the truth for all to hear. I do fault Ms. Born for her lack of civic duty because while Ms. Born felt that her agency had a legal mandate to regulate this market she stood up to the Powers and did not back down but as soon as Congress repealed that legal mandate she felt “….[it] had relieved the commission of the responsibility….. I no longer thought it was my duty as chair of the CFTC to make sure that something bad didn\'t happen in the market.” To me that was a cop-out and she should be ashamed of herself! She had a “duty” as an American citizen, as someone who was in the "know" and sworn to protect the public’s interest to shout from the roof tops if necessary what was going on and her fears. She worked for us, the American People, and if there was some impediment to her "going public" she should have resigned and then gone public.Maybe if she had been a little more courageous some of what has happened could have been avoided.","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 13:23"},{"nm":"Monique Neugebauer","rs":"0","ms":"President Obama needs to make better use of intelligent and morally guided professionals such as Ms. Brooksley Born. It is a pity that the two misguided Greenspan stalwarts have the president\'s ear instead. I am disgusted with those we trusted to "know better". I am disgusted that after the bailouts the banks (Bank of America in my case) sought to raise our fees, rates etc..., with convoluted, obscure "tiny print" that most of us missed. This is at an emotionally critical time when those of us who are embroiled in the ramifications of extended unemployment, are trying to pay back our bills (as I have). In trying to work out a repayment plan, I asked for better rates (or at least role back to the original rates) especially based on my history. Even though they agreed I had a good credit history, they could not help me lower my rates since I was unemployed! " Our hands are tied, but please call back again when your situation changes for another reassessment of your case..." Oh well THAT makes me feel better and gives me oodles of hope and incentive??? Out of my $150 minimum payment $95.57 goes to the Periodic Rate Finance Charge. My minimum due each month and the charges rise each month even though my balance falls ( EVER SO S-L-O-W-L-Y). What nonsense is this? THIS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL! SHARK tactics should be outlawed! The banks are now using the same tactics as the fly-by-night-quickie "pay day" loan lending sharks use, unabated!!! They knew they had me "over a barrel", because in order to change to a new card or loan to lower my rates I would need a current employer. I have been diligently seeking employment but to no avail. My only recourse at this time is to file bankruptcy, but at this time, I am trying to hang on and pay every bill that I owe, as I know that the ramifications are not what I care for. I told them that when I do pay off my card, I shall never use their services again, as long as the people who forged the unethical policy and set it into motion, are still in their employ. I would dearly like to see these people LIVE what the rest of us are going through! Maybe they would rethink their very isolationist narcissistic ways. To heck with them!","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 13:14"},{"nm":"Morton Brond","rs":"0","ms":"Ms.Born was and is a bright light in an otherwise dismal group of ego centric men. She deserves far greater recognition and aclaim than Greenspan, Rubin and Summers. Maybe Obama should replace Summers with Born. A far more trustwothy individual.","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 12:08"},{"nm":"Kip Page","rs":"0","ms":"One thing Mrs Born missed in her interview is what is called "regulatory arbitrage", the use of unregulated OTC derivatives to go around the regulations applied to regulated derivatives. It is done through the use of SPE\'s and accounting rules that allow all sorts of chicanery. Please read "Infectious Greed: How Deceit and Risk Corrupted the Financial Markets" by Frank Partnoy for a very scholarly look at the whole problem. This was a tremendously profitable business for the Wall Street titans and is why they are fighting so hard to prevent meaningful regulation. What does it matter to them that the whole country (and world) suffers as long as they can easily extract trillions in profits and pay themselves billions in bonuses? ","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 12:08"},{"nm":"Karen","rs":"0","ms":"With regard to Arthur Leavitt\'s comment: "You know, if SHE just would have gotten to know us, ... maybe it would have gone a different way."\n\nPerhaps if YOU, Mr. Leavitt, had bothered to get to know her better, it would have gone a different way. \n\nI, too, am very worried that the same cast of characters are advising President Obama. Greenspan may have been astute enough to finally learn that Ayn Rand\'s philosophy of unregulated markets was flawed, but I haven\'t heard that the others learned that lesson. And the financial institutions have managed to block efforts at reform and regulation -- to the public\'s peril.","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 12:06"},{"nm":"Chris Morse","rs":"0","ms":"Fantastic job; well put together, most interesting was the admission of guilt by the "Wizard, Alan Greenspan", and Phil Gramm\'s utter conceit, as he lambasted\nBrooksley Born in his condescending tone. kudos, Obama should put her on his "team"....now","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 11:09"},{"nm":"Joe Kline","rs":"0","ms":"Obama has the wrong people in charge of the financial future of this country! Obama, take a second look and see if you have the right people around you for financial advice. \n\nWhat a fine person you are Brooksley. \n\nA refreshing contrast to the mind spinning self-serving male culture in charge of the financial markets.\n","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 10:05"},{"nm":"Mohamed Badawi","rs":"0","ms":"Brooksely put words into my gut feelings. Something felt not right about the financial market on all the past years. \n\nBrooksley come back and finish the job. You have unfinished business of regulating the financial market before the next bubble burst. \n\nObama, beware of the people around you they need a head like Brooksley to overwrite the current ghost influence of Alan Greenspan spooking the minds of those advising the white house. \n\nA new financial bubble is now in the formation due to a lack of strong head on regulation. \n\nUSA beware!\n","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 09:56"},{"nm":"Horace Jennings","rs":"0","ms":"The Hand that rocks the cradle is the hand that rules the world. I feel bad for Ms. Born for trying to do her job. But it hard to fight when you are in the den with vipers.","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 09:08"},{"nm":"B CARR","rs":"0","ms":"As a "Georgist" I fully support regulation of the markest, removing monitary creation from the banks, to the Treasury (See recent articles in The Nation), and aggressive "carbon" off-sets. Monetry control need to be returned to the govenmental body charged with it creation and regulation, THE CONGRESS.","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 08:42"},{"nm":"Neal G. Miller","rs":"0","ms":"Brooksley Born could have been a very wise moderating influence on the financial "Men\'s Club" during her tenure at the CFTC. It\'s a shame no one took her seriously then. They seem to now!","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 08:20"},{"nm":"Janina","rs":"0","ms":"What is horrifying that we have the villains again at the top.\nOnce again, they pontificate, they parade in front od the TV cameras, they got rich, and they rule us.\nThere is no recourse. They are at it again: bonuses, trading, luring people into Wall Street gambling with the miserable leftovers of their 401k\'s.\nWe can watch all the programs on PBS we want--while they fleece us without mercy. There is no stopping them.\nThe whole program makes me very sad. Sad for Ms. Born, sad for the country. ","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 01:01"},{"nm":"Byron Roskelley","rs":"0","ms":"One fine lady! It seems we still have foxes in the hen house. I wish the president\nwould give Ms. Born an ear.","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 00:49"},{"nm":"Ann Kondak","rs":"0","ms":"The immediate crisis has passed but the financial industry is still fighting regulation. However, it is the responsibility of Congress, with leadership from President Obama and his advisors, to look out for the interest of the public. Those who made millions from these activities still have their money but many people have lost pensions, savings, 401K\'s, homes, jobs, etc. Unemployment is still increasing. Banks are not lending to small businesses, suffocating any progress. And now the finance gurus are back at it, wanting to pay off their bailout, which helped them with very lucrative terms, so they can go back to their risky behavior. I think what happened was criminal. it behooves Congress and President Obama to absolutely insure protection of the public. Not only that, an investigation, perhaps a special commission, should look into if there was criminal activity or fraud and prosecute those who committed any such acts.","pt":"Oct 21, 2009 00:42"},{"nm":"Allen Sickling","rs":"0","ms":"Arthur Leavitt may have said something else on camera, but he said on air, "I wish I knew her better in Washington, I could have done much better, I could have made a difference." It\'s interesting that that\'s the clip they chose to use, but the quotation they chose to frame the question here was, "You know, if she just would have gotten to know us, ... maybe it would have gone a different way."\n","pt":"Oct 20, 2009 23:52"},{"nm":"Tyler Townsley","rs":"0","ms":"Thank you. I would like to thank Brooksley for her many years of public service. I was an economist long ago but a war got in the way. Her insight should be put back to work, Obama needs to a counterpoint to his current advisors. I had puzzeled for the last 15 years where the money that pushed the market was comming from. What was strange is the moment I heard the word derivatives I realized what they were and how their abuse could create economic strings that could/did undermine any banking system. It is our loss that she was ignored. I liken derivative strings to string theory in Physics, my son a Physicist (just hired by U of Alabama, YES, his first job) is uncomfortable with the ideas in string theory and I feel my economics training makes as me uncomfortable with derivative strings. Neither ideas have really solid methods to cope with them. Again thank you Brooksley for trying.\n\nTyler ","pt":"Oct 20, 2009 23:33"},{"nm":"james pietrangelo","rs":"0","ms":"What a great show it open my eyes alot I was frozen to the tv I thought frontline did the job I wish fox news would do more of this it scared me to see a couple of those guys still working and that close to Obama. ","pt":"Oct 20, 2009 23:22"}]}); });